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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Why don’t more companies make jumbo jets?
	- There are so few companies that make jumbo jets because there are significant barriers for entry into the aircraft market. Jumbo jets are incredibly expensive to design build and run, the amount of fuel that they use for one flight is around 10,000 pounds per hour so to start the company you will have to have a lot of money. Also since plane travel is considered a risky venture there is a certain amount of brand loyalty that controls the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Why don’t more companies make jumbo jets?<br />
	- There are so few companies that make jumbo jets because there are significant barriers for entry into the aircraft market. Jumbo jets are incredibly expensive to design build and run, the amount of fuel that they use for one flight is around 10,000 pounds per hour so to start the company you will have to have a lot of money. Also since plane travel is considered a risky venture there is a certain amount of brand loyalty that controls the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Gelando Makrides</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gelando Makrides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3. Why don’t more companies make jumbo jets?

The jumbo jet market is not characterized as a perfectly competitive market. This is important because this means that there are significant obstales preventing &#039;just any&#039; firm from entering and exiting the industry. The short run costs would, in most cases in a jumbo jet market, overcome the profits and the firm would be forced to discontinue. Jumbo jets specifically have an naturally high total resource cost, meaning that without underlying advantages such as materials deals, entering the market would be an unwise economic decision for most entrepeneurs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3. Why don’t more companies make jumbo jets?</p>
<p>The jumbo jet market is not characterized as a perfectly competitive market. This is important because this means that there are significant obstales preventing &#8216;just any&#8217; firm from entering and exiting the industry. The short run costs would, in most cases in a jumbo jet market, overcome the profits and the firm would be forced to discontinue. Jumbo jets specifically have an naturally high total resource cost, meaning that without underlying advantages such as materials deals, entering the market would be an unwise economic decision for most entrepeneurs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Remmert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Remmert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A company is defined as being &quot;too big for its own good&quot; when is becomes so big it is inefficient.  Efficiency decreases and its average total costs begin to increase.  This is caused by having too many management teams across the globe which can lead to miscommunication and corruption.  Average total costs can increase when the company is forced to increase land, labor, and capital in order to produce the product throughout the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A company is defined as being &#8220;too big for its own good&#8221; when is becomes so big it is inefficient.  Efficiency decreases and its average total costs begin to increase.  This is caused by having too many management teams across the globe which can lead to miscommunication and corruption.  Average total costs can increase when the company is forced to increase land, labor, and capital in order to produce the product throughout the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mhairi Hutchison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mhairi Hutchison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3. Jumbo Jets are not a competitive market, this is due to the fact that is takes a lot of time, money and capital to create them. Therefore there are only a few companies that make jumbo jets as they have the ability to produce and ship them for a lower price as they are ordering materials and shipping in bulk quantities. It would be very hard to create a company that makes jumbo-jets over night as it would be too costly and not very likely for the company to gain a large profit in such a short period of time, this is why there are only a few companies that specialize in making jumbo jets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3. Jumbo Jets are not a competitive market, this is due to the fact that is takes a lot of time, money and capital to create them. Therefore there are only a few companies that make jumbo jets as they have the ability to produce and ship them for a lower price as they are ordering materials and shipping in bulk quantities. It would be very hard to create a company that makes jumbo-jets over night as it would be too costly and not very likely for the company to gain a large profit in such a short period of time, this is why there are only a few companies that specialize in making jumbo jets.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesson Plan: Costs of Production Presentation for Y1 IB Economics &#124; Welker's Wikinomics Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesson Plan: Costs of Production Presentation for Y1 IB Economics &#124; Welker's Wikinomics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WW Blog – Economies of scale and the long-run ATC (Read and respond to the discussion questions as a table group) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Karol Remin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karol Remin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it mean that a firm can become “too big for its own good”? Can you think of any other organizations (economic or otherwise) that have gotten so big that they’ve failed?

When a firm becomes too big for its own good, it means that the firm is experiencing diseconomies of scale - ATC is rising and workers in the newly opened plant, for example, are becoming less efficient. One of the possible causes for this might be the company&#039;s inability to manage the firm in its allocation of resources - for example labor not utilizing capital efficiently. A real-life example would be Wal-Mart. About 1 or 2 years ago, Wal-Mart was about to face a disceconomy of scale as they were opening up new outlets. However, as far as I know, the executives at Wal-Mart came to realize that fairly quickly and decided to focus on their existing retail outlets and slow down with their global expansion of outlets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it mean that a firm can become “too big for its own good”? Can you think of any other organizations (economic or otherwise) that have gotten so big that they’ve failed?</p>
<p>When a firm becomes too big for its own good, it means that the firm is experiencing diseconomies of scale &#8211; ATC is rising and workers in the newly opened plant, for example, are becoming less efficient. One of the possible causes for this might be the company&#8217;s inability to manage the firm in its allocation of resources &#8211; for example labor not utilizing capital efficiently. A real-life example would be Wal-Mart. About 1 or 2 years ago, Wal-Mart was about to face a disceconomy of scale as they were opening up new outlets. However, as far as I know, the executives at Wal-Mart came to realize that fairly quickly and decided to focus on their existing retail outlets and slow down with their global expansion of outlets.</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe R-Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felipe R-Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.What does it mean that a firm can become “too big for its own good”? Can you think of any other organizations (economic or otherwise) that have gotten so big that they’ve failed?

When a firm becomes &quot;too big for its own good&quot;, this means that it is entering diseconomies of scale. At a certain point, a firm will not be able to manage effectively, and as the firm gets bigger and bigger, it gets more and more difficult to effectively manage it, hence be competitive. With additional plants and factories, the firm will not get more productive; on the contrary, as management of the whole firm goes down, the average cost will rise. A good non-economic example of this is the Roman Empire. As the empire got bigger and bigger and bigger, it was becoming impossible to manage from Rome, and eventually the Empire split into two, the Occidental and Oriental Roman Empires. However, this system did not last very long, and eventually the Roman Empire was crushed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.What does it mean that a firm can become “too big for its own good”? Can you think of any other organizations (economic or otherwise) that have gotten so big that they’ve failed?</p>
<p>When a firm becomes &#8220;too big for its own good&#8221;, this means that it is entering diseconomies of scale. At a certain point, a firm will not be able to manage effectively, and as the firm gets bigger and bigger, it gets more and more difficult to effectively manage it, hence be competitive. With additional plants and factories, the firm will not get more productive; on the contrary, as management of the whole firm goes down, the average cost will rise. A good non-economic example of this is the Roman Empire. As the empire got bigger and bigger and bigger, it was becoming impossible to manage from Rome, and eventually the Empire split into two, the Occidental and Oriental Roman Empires. However, this system did not last very long, and eventually the Roman Empire was crushed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. When a firm is so big that it  cannot allocate its resources properly, it is not efficient anymore. For example, it has too many branches but no longer the means to sustain its facilities the firm&#039;s Total costs start to increase. 
To save the firm, they would have to close down some branches until the firm returns to &#039;Constant returns to scale&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. When a firm is so big that it  cannot allocate its resources properly, it is not efficient anymore. For example, it has too many branches but no longer the means to sustain its facilities the firm&#8217;s Total costs start to increase.<br />
To save the firm, they would have to close down some branches until the firm returns to &#8216;Constant returns to scale&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lara Fuhrmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lara Fuhrmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2.Why does your hometown have only one electricity company? Why aren’t utility industries such as water, natural gas, and garbage collection more competitive? How does the concept of economies of scale lead to certain industries being “natural monopolies”?

My hometown only has one electricity company, because it takes time to built a big company like electricity. Also everybody uses the other firm it needs time to spread that a new company is built. For example windows and mac. Windows is spread worldwide and windows almost bought every game for the computer. So for different games you need windows. So companys like mac maybe produce good software and computers, but all the games and softwares on the market work with windows, because they bought them. Those industries are a monopoly, so it has barriers to enter this market. It&#039;s not easy to enter the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2.Why does your hometown have only one electricity company? Why aren’t utility industries such as water, natural gas, and garbage collection more competitive? How does the concept of economies of scale lead to certain industries being “natural monopolies”?</p>
<p>My hometown only has one electricity company, because it takes time to built a big company like electricity. Also everybody uses the other firm it needs time to spread that a new company is built. For example windows and mac. Windows is spread worldwide and windows almost bought every game for the computer. So for different games you need windows. So companys like mac maybe produce good software and computers, but all the games and softwares on the market work with windows, because they bought them. Those industries are a monopoly, so it has barriers to enter this market. It&#8217;s not easy to enter the market.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever i talk to my father or brother i find it intriguing that there are so many workers in their respective banks who bring in no income. I ask myself how there are so many positions that deal solely with administrative duties such as managers, human resources, I.t. However through understanding, LR-ATC i understand that these positions are necessary for economies of scale to occur. In order for each additional ATC curve to be more efficient and lower than the previous effective managers must be put in place so that the workers who bring in income are more efficient and the cost of each additional product is lower than before. However, a firm can get &quot;to big for its own good&quot; and the costs of its administrative workers will outweigh the benefit of having additional workers bringing in money. During the international banking crisis, Starbucks was experiencing diseconomies of scale and only realized it once it revenues decreased. Starbucks had to close down stores or face failing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever i talk to my father or brother i find it intriguing that there are so many workers in their respective banks who bring in no income. I ask myself how there are so many positions that deal solely with administrative duties such as managers, human resources, I.t. However through understanding, LR-ATC i understand that these positions are necessary for economies of scale to occur. In order for each additional ATC curve to be more efficient and lower than the previous effective managers must be put in place so that the workers who bring in income are more efficient and the cost of each additional product is lower than before. However, a firm can get &#8220;to big for its own good&#8221; and the costs of its administrative workers will outweigh the benefit of having additional workers bringing in money. During the international banking crisis, Starbucks was experiencing diseconomies of scale and only realized it once it revenues decreased. Starbucks had to close down stores or face failing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Fedor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Fedor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3.Why don’t more companies make jumbo jets?

It can be very difficult to start a large company like a jumbo jet producer. At low production, costs are very high, because there is a massive fixed cost (factories, techniques,etc.) The only way that some jumbo jet companies can make a profit is by &#039;spreading the overhead&#039;. When the firm splits the cost of the expensive equipment and techniques required to build jumbo jets among many planes, the Average Total Cost is much lower, and if the company sells them at a price higher than the ATC, they can make a profit. However, it is very hard to start up a company like this, especially when others already are in it, and willing to sell at a lower price and higher quality than a start-up jumbo jet company can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3.Why don’t more companies make jumbo jets?</p>
<p>It can be very difficult to start a large company like a jumbo jet producer. At low production, costs are very high, because there is a massive fixed cost (factories, techniques,etc.) The only way that some jumbo jet companies can make a profit is by &#8217;spreading the overhead&#8217;. When the firm splits the cost of the expensive equipment and techniques required to build jumbo jets among many planes, the Average Total Cost is much lower, and if the company sells them at a price higher than the ATC, they can make a profit. However, it is very hard to start up a company like this, especially when others already are in it, and willing to sell at a lower price and higher quality than a start-up jumbo jet company can.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Steinhubl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Steinhubl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. A company becomes &quot;too big for its own good&quot; when it reaches a point that it it grows so large it becomes inefficient. This can happen because of many reasons. After a certain point, when the company is so large, they have too many factories or resources to take control of. With factories or production plants all around the world, there would have to be many levels of management, which as the post says, could lead to corruption and miscommunication. Also, the major problem with a firm becoming to large, is that the costs would be massive. In order to run a firm that is so large, there are millions and millions of dollars of costs. Higher wages, capital, and land are all parts of being a mega firm. The Roman Empire was an example of this. It was so large that it became too hard to control and protect, and eventually fell apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. A company becomes &#8220;too big for its own good&#8221; when it reaches a point that it it grows so large it becomes inefficient. This can happen because of many reasons. After a certain point, when the company is so large, they have too many factories or resources to take control of. With factories or production plants all around the world, there would have to be many levels of management, which as the post says, could lead to corruption and miscommunication. Also, the major problem with a firm becoming to large, is that the costs would be massive. In order to run a firm that is so large, there are millions and millions of dollars of costs. Higher wages, capital, and land are all parts of being a mega firm. The Roman Empire was an example of this. It was so large that it became too hard to control and protect, and eventually fell apart.</p>
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